December 22, 2020
Today we’re doing something a little different and fun. Last week we on Instagram asked you to give us your assumptions about us. And then we intentionally didn’t look at the answers at all. So that way we could give you our honest, first impression reading them for the first time on this episode. It’s gonna be super fun and just a more lighthearted episode. If you want to get to know us even more, probably more than we’ve shared before, keep listening. You might get some tea today, I don’t know. So grab a glass of wine or a cup of coffee (whenever you’re listening to this haha) and sit down, while we answer your assumptions about us. It’s about to get real.
We’ve never done an episode like this before, where we have asked something from you AND have yet to look at them. We are giddy like school children about to eat a lollipop.
We’re nervous and excited at the same time, eager but also terrified. It’s a good mix. We are prepared to be offended.
Evie has changed a LOT since moving to California.
Lindsey thinks it’s 1000% true. Thinking Evie has sunk into the boho, surfer girl lifestyle. Whereas in Ohio it was more Anne of Green Gables and homeschooler. Evie does think it is accurate. But doesn’t think it is entirely because she moved to California. Honestly, a big part of becoming an adult is growing, developing, and changing. So, yes absolutely, she has changed but feels it is a more natural part of life rather than dependent on where she moved. We would say that is correct.
Lindsey changed a ton after getting married.
Evie says yes, thinking since meeting Andrew as a whole. Lindsey says he has brought out the more adventurous hiker in her because if you met her in high school, her bedroom was neon green and hot pink everything! That gives you a good perspective, loved drama theater, and the Disney channel. Her dream was to be a pop princess as Hillary Duff as her idol. But yes, when you get married you definitely change and grow.
You two never argue.
We don’t argue but have had disagreements more so on business things. We don’t fight or argue. We’ve never had a fight or argument. We might have hurt the other one’s feelings or miscommunication, but we like to think we do it healthily. The one thing that does come to mind is when Lindsey was coming back to the office from her miscarriage and Evie was on a girl trip and they had a slack messaging conversation where Evie lost it on Lindsey. It was a miscommunication. That is the only time. Have had disagreements and hard conversations but for the most part that is the only time we have had an unhealthy communication approach. Is pretty accurate, we don’t argue.
Evie is more chill and Lindsey is the crazy one.
We think in general that is kind of true. Evie is much more peaceful than Lindsey is, but Evie is a lot more sassy and wild than people think. She is good at reining it in well. Overall this is pretty accurate, we think there are nuances to this assumption. Evie tends to be chill and go with the flow and Lindsey loves to get in the middle of everything.
You and Evie weren’t always super crazy energetic on Instagram.
For Evie, this assumption is more inaccurate than accurate. This might be a little bit true if you go way back in the day before stories existed. We have always been very energetic, outgoing, and extroverted. That was always true but there was a season where we were trying to fit in. There are elements where we love the trendy but the more we have gone on our journey we have almost permitted ourselves to be ourselves.
You constantly argue behind the scenes.
Not at all. We also want to say that the number of times that we do have disagreements and are not on the same page is like twice a year. We are almost always on the same wavelength and page. Wildly inaccurate. Why this is not true is because it is 100% a God thing. If you are not on the same page and the same worldview and how you see the world, it will affect your business. In general, we have differing opinions and then we figure it out. Even when we do have that twice a year disagreement we have healthy communication.
You don’t disagree often, but when you do it can be really tense.
That could be true, the times we do disagree we are passionate. It is passionate but not tense. The only exception was the slack exchange, but that was because we hadn’t communicated in two months and we took it out on each other in a very unhealthy way. That was a fluke. Our disagreements are “hey let’s sit down and chat through something”. We’d say this is False.
You laugh a lot together.
1000% without a doubt. 90% of our calls are laughing. We get off on tangents a lot.
You’re both really young.
Evie is really young. Evie is 23 and Lindsey is 29. This will most likely be a surprise to you. Probably because Lindsey acts like a Disney channel star and Evie always acts way older than she is. We feel like we are the same age and have never felt like there is an age gap. We have a six-year age gap and we forget that all the time.
You only focus on the adventurous photographers.
In what aspect? Education? In our minds, we are very intentionally trying not to do that. Pivoting The Heart to creative entrepreneurs as a whole. We’re trying to even widen the bucket and disagree with that assumption. We can potentially see how someone can see that it is our expertise and are very skilled in that area and niche. But we would say no and we try not to. We have intentionally tried to widen to all photographers and all creative entrepreneurs.
I wish they continued the sentence a little more. If it is similar to the one above. If it is our education and who we speak to, our goal of who we are trying to serve and be there for, that is the goal of niche marketing. Who we can serve well. If that’s the case I would say no, it’s called niche marketing.
You approve of each other’s significant others.
Andrew and Evie are the type of people that more easily clash, we have rubbed together multiple times and there have been moments where Andrew and Evie have had to sit down but that comes back to good communication. We have talked through it and worked through our stuff. We want to get along, but just because we have butted heads doesn’t mean I don’t approve of him as Lindsey’s husband. Not even a question that Lindsey approves of Landon. Just questioning his timing on when he is going to put that ring on her finger.
You help each other grow.
Yes, 100%. We don’t think that is even a question.
When you get together you turn into two giddy 12-year-old girls.
1000%. Without a doubt unless we are getting together for work and we have a deadline. We have a very good balance with play and with being serious and focused when we need to be.
You have a crazy amount of inside jokes.
Do we? We don’t think we do. We have a couple. We have been friends, best friends, and partners for a long time that they have created but not as you would think.
Lindsey bosses Evie around.
Completely false. Not at all. The only reason why people might think that is because of our personality differences. But this is not accurate at all. Only thinking that Lindsey is a bit more direct but we are always on the same page. Not accurate at all.
Lindsey is like Evie’s big sister.
We feel like twins more than anything. In no way does Lindsey feel like she is older than Evie.
You’ve been besties forever.
No, we met in 2017 in-person and have known each other on Instagram since 2015.
You’re making bank $$$.
HA! We don’t know how to answer that. We make good money because we are smart and strategize well. We wouldn’t call ourselves millionaires. We are just smart and savvy and our company is growing. We are financially stable. With our revenue for us, we tend to reinvest a lot of what we are making into different start-ups, investments, or expanding. Cash flow might be decent but we aren’t just sitting on our money.
Advise each other 50/50.
Kind of. I would say that is accurate.
You have different political views.
Not at all, 100% on the same page.
Evie is more extroverted than Lindsey.
Wow, we don’t think that is true. Evie has that softer side, not that Lindsey isn’t soft. We are shocked that someone said that. Lindsey is more WAHH out there. We are equally extroverted. Evie would not say she is more extroverted than Lindsey.
Lindsey hates cooking, Evie loves it.
That is true Lindsey does hate cooking. Evie does not love it but she doesn’t hate it either. To her, it feels like a waste of time. Not having the patience for that with where she is at in life. When she does carve out time for it, she loves it!
Evie asks Lindsey for relationship advice multiple times before breaking up with Landon.
Lindsey and Evie weren’t that close during that season. We weren’t in that season yet or stage of life together.
You text the most random parts of your life to one another.
Yeah. We would say that is accurate. Thinking about the screenshots or random things we send to each other.
Lindsey likes watching TV more than Evie does.
We would say that is probably true. Evie likes watching TV but intentionally doesn’t. Lindsey enjoys shows that bring people together. *cough cough* Bachelor nights with charcuterie and wine!
In-person, Lindsey is more carefree and Evie is more serious.
We feel like this can be yes and no. This circles back to that we feel like we are balanced. Lindsey in person can be more carefree but then Evie can be more goofy crazy. It is a mix. We don’t think in-person Evie is more serious in any way.
You pee with the door open with each other.
Yeah, that is 100% true but we do that with everybody. Super comfortable with each other for sure.
You two genuinely care about helping the small fish.
Absolutely, that is why we do this. Without a single doubt. Our favorite part in doing this is doing our workshops, and pouring ourselves into someone else, and watching them thrive. That is our favorite part. We love seeing people succeed and build lives and businesses that they love.
You guys are loud and obnoxious together.
Yes, we can be. Moving on.
You guys are always working on something.
Yes. We have like 10 year plans y’all.
Lindsey is a 7 and Evie is a 3.
The exact opposite. Lindsey is a 3w4 and Evie is a 7w8.
You wish you lived closer to each other.
Yes, without a doubt. It would save us so much money on plane tickets. It would be so much fun for life stuff. It would help the friendship side more and be able to hang out more in everyday life. A resounding YES.
You two are ALWAYS happy.
Absolutely not! We like to have joy in our lives. In general, our reaction to life tends to be joy rather than anything else. If another emotion is happening it is abnormal and is an exception rather than the norm.
You always have a dance party when you’re together.
Yes, but we don’t categorize it as a dance party. We always do dance videos but it’s not planned dance parties.
You don’t go a day without talking to each other.
There are days but there are also not a lot of days. Whether it is slack or texting, or on a zoom meeting. We go days without talking like Sunday when we are relaxing and unplugging but on average we tend to spend more days talking to each other than not.
You both talk about what you’re going to do in your personal businesses to match one another.
We don’t think we try to match each other. In our personal businesses, we try not to conflict with each other. We talk about what we are doing and planning. Outside of The Heart, we would technically be competitors so we want to make sure we don’t come out with something that conflicts with The Heart or each other. It is very hard. The way we have orchestrated this is any business education has to come from The Heart. That is true but to not conflict.
You have healthy competition that pushes you to be better in business.
We would agree with each other a little bit but in general, we both do have healthy competition. We both want to be better. So, yes.
You don’t get along outside of work.
Hilarious. That would be so sad. We spend a lot of time in each other’s lives. The Heart would not exist if this was true. That is laughable.
You both have days where you don’t feel like being “on” but don’t have wiggle room to take the day off.
We both have days where we don’t want to be on but if there is a launch coming up then sure but I think we have wiggle room. The days where we don’t feel like being on are not super common, the days that we don’t have wiggle room are not common. This statement is not very accurate. 57:03 For us social media isn’t about us it is about serving other people. It is easier to approach social media from an exciting perspective when it is not about us. We don’t feel like those correlate.
You’re both unathletic.
We would say Lindsey is more unathletic than Evie. Evie considers herself very athletic. She grew up doing all sorts of sports. Whereas Lindsey did not do sports, but she did do cheerleading. Evie played baseball, volleyball, gymnastics, and ran cross country. She would consider herself an athletic person and Lindsey not as much.
Evie likes dark chocolate and Lindsey likes milk chocolate.
Lindsey says absolutely not dark chocolate all the way! Evie doesn’t like chocolate. She doesn’t hate it, or ever really crave it. She likes sweet things, as she LOVES ice cream, but just never wants chocolate.
Evie sometimes gets annoyed with Lindsey because she trips over her words.
No. Lindsey trips over her words more than Evie does, but she doesn’t get annoyed.
You two don’t have short tempers – very patient.
Sure. We would say Lindsey can be very passionate, she doesn’t hesitate to communicate it. But we don’t think in any way we have a short temper. Lindsey is not patient but she doesn’t have a short temper. Whereas Evie is more patient in general, but neither of us have short tempers.
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